Post by Mysti on Jul 7, 2007 11:46:33 GMT -5
AdvLog26A-RemoteView1-070212
REMOTE VIEWING - Part 1
What is Remote Viewing? Well, to me it seems a lot like some of the psychic experiences you can see in the "Psychic Detectives" series on Court TV. And it's interesting to note in those programs where one type of psychic ability merges into another. The more I read and study, the less I'm able to give clear cut definitions of where one ability stops and another begins. The best definition I can come up with for Remote Viewing is that it is something like sitting in your own chair at home and seeing events, people and places elsewhere. I'd like to say "current events" but some Remote Viewers report that they have developed the ability to see past events as well.
Seeing Through Another's Mind
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Now we can see through the eyes of others. Which, I would say, is tuning into someone else's mind and picking up whatever the person is concentrating on. Here's a couple of examples of this tuning in to another mind.:
A few thousand years ago (well, it seems like that) when I was much younger and working in San Francisco, I'd ride the streetcar to go home. And often in a semi-asleep state, my eyes closed, I'd see the newspaper in my mind's eye that someone else was reading. But, darn it, whenever my mind would try to look at an item in the paper that the person was reading. they'd look at a different part of the page and that would break the mind link.
I remember one evening on the way home on that same streetcar route I suddenly became aware of rather angry words in my mind to the effect "That dirty old nigger, he ought to be ... " and I woke up very suddenly. I looked out the streetcar window, and there was a rather disheveled old man, clearly a "street person" moving slowly along the sidewalk.
These are examples of mind-link and are not Remote Viewing. But these mind-link experiences did show to me how we do live in an ocean of mind-thought and are quite capable of picking up the thoughts of others and to some extent, what they are experiencing.
Dr. Paul Foster Case, a very eminent occultist of the 1930's, was the last Preminstrator General of the Golden Dawn before he officially dissolved that esoteric order. (We'll get into esoteric orders in a future class.) Anyway, during the depression, he, a skilled concert pianist, was working with a dance band. (You took whatever job you could get during the depression years. ) He rode to work on the local bus. He was a vegetarian and practiced meditation, and other spiritual disciplines. One evening on the bus, he was suddenly aware of all the thoughts of everyone on the bus, all at once. Everything from some guy thinking of what he'd like to do with a girl-friend or with that cute number sitting a few seats ahead, to those on the bus who were angry with their boss, their spouse, parent, etc., and how they'd like to murder them or "get even." So at the first opportunity, Paul got off the bus, stopped at a restaurant and ate a steak dinner. That was the last of his vegetarian regimen.
Ok,. Enough examples of mind-links. Mind-link is NOT remote viewing.
What is Remote Viewing?
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Remote viewing is , well, -- hard to describe -- it is a detached seeing of a remote scene.
WrenOwl: Remote viewing is like being a camera....... thus most likely the only source of info to the situation is visual
GS: It does not work through anyone else's mind or vision. An example is, say I, as monitor, ask you to remote view some building in Iran. (In governmental practice, the viewer works with a second person, a monitor who guides the remove viewer so that the viewer does not have to think about what he or she is viewing.)
You are able to get to the building and see it psychically. Then I, as monitor, can ask you to look at the roof, or at another side of the building or to enter it. There is no one at the building site such that you are "looking through their eyes" or moving them around to see sides of the building or getting them to fly so you can see the roof. It is just your mind that goes by its self to the locations your monitor selects. But as with the work which is done on the "Psychic Detectives" program on the cable TV Court channel, we must keep our own minds, our imaginations and our mind's intense desire to get in to analyzing whatever is being seen at bay. We have to completely suppress the mind's usual activities.
Dragonhearts4: OK, so mind link is like when you see through someone else's eyes, and like pick up on what they are thinking and feeling, and remote viewing is like third person for me, like above viewing something, right?
GS: The difference is this: Mind-link is seeing through another's eyes, picking up thought content from them, so that the other person is sending the thought data to you. He's the sender, you are the receiver. You are dependent upon what that other person is seeing or doing or thinking about for whatever you receive. Remote Viewing is more like you are sitting in a control booth, directing a remote controlled pilotless aircraft. You are in control of what you see and where the pilotless aircraft goes. Yet, it's more like there's someone standing behind your chair, the monitor telling you where to go and you are just following the monitor's flight instructions, not thinking about it.
One last cravat: Remote Viewing is not astral projection. The astral body (or at least a good part of it) remains in your physical body. What is out there on the remote location -- the remote viewer doesn't know or have a clue about before he or she starts viewing. But Remote Viewing can be very accurate and sometimes the information received can be very useful. The Military and the "spy" services of the United States have been using Remote Viewing for many years -- the USSR for even longer. One example was the location of a Marine Lt. Colonel who had been captured by rebel forces in Lebanon. Through Remote Viewing, he was located, the design and layout of the building he was held captive in was determined and a successful rescue mission brought him back.
First Stage of RVing
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GS: Now the first stage or step in Remote Viewing is in the here and now (or should we say "the there and now"?) In any event, present time. Now, for those who have REALLY developed Remote Viewing ability, you can RV the past, even back to Atlantis. And also see future events. I'd say that "Precognition" is just an extension of Remote Viewing. There are a couple of books out by Joseph McMoneagle which develop RVing but largely from a military and CIA perspective. These books are based on his experiences working as a Remote Viewer. But the major key to successful remote viewing is controlling the mind. Teaching the analytic and imaginative facilities of the mind to "SHUT UP" so a clear picture can come through, undistorted by one's own mind play. There's an organization in Atlanta GA that teaches Remote Viewing: www.farsight.org There are a couple of sites on the Internet that "test" remote viewing abilities. But, I'd stay away from them. They ask too many personal questions to be entirely trustworthy and above board.
NEXT WEEK
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OK. We've about exhausted the time available for this class. So next week we'll get into practical RVing. How it's done and how you can do it.
HOMEWORK:
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Continue Meditation, Journaling and Visualization practice. Be good to your Inner Child this week. Did someone say "ice cream"?
LAST QUESTIONS
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OK any last questions before we close?
Dragonhearts4: The red haze stuff? What is the red haze stuff, just the energy they use to block?
GS: I haven't run into the red haze, but I've experienced the gray haze as "whoever" quickly puts up the barriers.
Dragonhearts4: Yes, seen that too but I have used, like a beam of light, like rubbing a hole or cleaning a dirty window to look through.
TimeWalkr: Grey is more complex, red is a basal reaction to a presence not understood.
Dragonhearts4: I think this is interesting although apparently haven't read up on it as much as some in class
Dragonhearts4: Yes, have you ever tried to remote view and had like a red haze around things, like blocking? What is that?
ImLadyAthena: How can one block self from being viewed in such a way? If you are not aware.. that would be hard.
Wdogstarr9: There are those who are aware of [anyone who is doing] RV'ing.
GS: Yes, that's quite true Wdog., I've been "caught" a couple of times peeking into military establishments.
Dragonhearts4: Can that give you a bad headache if someone "catches" you looking at a place? Yes Dragon or worse. You might find a contingent of military investigators on your doorstep. However, they are sophisticated enough now that they can block you from seeing whatever it is.
Wdogstarr9: US is way behind Soviets, they are trying to " catch up." Grail, Wren, have you told some of the physical symptoms some people can feel if they are being RV'd? One typical one is, a sharp pain in the upper right temporal area, another, a strong pull and pressure on the crown area. Many Remote Viewers have described these physical symptoms when others, from afar, were attempting to Remote View.
WrenOwl: What you're describing is more like a mind link because of the emotional capacity.
Wdogstarr9: They have even carried it to another, yet more lovely known art of Remote Assassination.
TimeWalkr: I'd say they ID'ed you, Grail
GS: Oh yes, TimeW. I was followed in astral for about two weeks by a USAF Lieutenant. I was looking at a clasasified area. LOL. But I guess they decided I was harmless.
TimeWalkr: Ha ha, Grail, bravo! Go for a major next time.
Dragonhearts4: Why would they waste time with me just for looking?
TimeWalkr: Because you might see too much
Dragonhearts4: Well, I don't get click clicks on the phone anymore.
GS: There is really a lot of psychic stuff going on behind the scenes, for sure.
TimeWalkr: Even in business.
TimeWalkr: You can see astral forms also when remote viewing, as they can see you astral..sometimes. And not all, in fact, a minority, are from this world
GS: Of course we could go on for hours on this, Timewalkr, but alas is time to close shop.
Log Entry: pubg400702099891757chat [Members - 0] 2/12/2007 09:42 PM
REMOTE VIEWING - Part 1
What is Remote Viewing? Well, to me it seems a lot like some of the psychic experiences you can see in the "Psychic Detectives" series on Court TV. And it's interesting to note in those programs where one type of psychic ability merges into another. The more I read and study, the less I'm able to give clear cut definitions of where one ability stops and another begins. The best definition I can come up with for Remote Viewing is that it is something like sitting in your own chair at home and seeing events, people and places elsewhere. I'd like to say "current events" but some Remote Viewers report that they have developed the ability to see past events as well.
Seeing Through Another's Mind
------------------
Now we can see through the eyes of others. Which, I would say, is tuning into someone else's mind and picking up whatever the person is concentrating on. Here's a couple of examples of this tuning in to another mind.:
A few thousand years ago (well, it seems like that) when I was much younger and working in San Francisco, I'd ride the streetcar to go home. And often in a semi-asleep state, my eyes closed, I'd see the newspaper in my mind's eye that someone else was reading. But, darn it, whenever my mind would try to look at an item in the paper that the person was reading. they'd look at a different part of the page and that would break the mind link.
I remember one evening on the way home on that same streetcar route I suddenly became aware of rather angry words in my mind to the effect "That dirty old nigger, he ought to be ... " and I woke up very suddenly. I looked out the streetcar window, and there was a rather disheveled old man, clearly a "street person" moving slowly along the sidewalk.
These are examples of mind-link and are not Remote Viewing. But these mind-link experiences did show to me how we do live in an ocean of mind-thought and are quite capable of picking up the thoughts of others and to some extent, what they are experiencing.
Dr. Paul Foster Case, a very eminent occultist of the 1930's, was the last Preminstrator General of the Golden Dawn before he officially dissolved that esoteric order. (We'll get into esoteric orders in a future class.) Anyway, during the depression, he, a skilled concert pianist, was working with a dance band. (You took whatever job you could get during the depression years. ) He rode to work on the local bus. He was a vegetarian and practiced meditation, and other spiritual disciplines. One evening on the bus, he was suddenly aware of all the thoughts of everyone on the bus, all at once. Everything from some guy thinking of what he'd like to do with a girl-friend or with that cute number sitting a few seats ahead, to those on the bus who were angry with their boss, their spouse, parent, etc., and how they'd like to murder them or "get even." So at the first opportunity, Paul got off the bus, stopped at a restaurant and ate a steak dinner. That was the last of his vegetarian regimen.
Ok,. Enough examples of mind-links. Mind-link is NOT remote viewing.
What is Remote Viewing?
-------------------
Remote viewing is , well, -- hard to describe -- it is a detached seeing of a remote scene.
WrenOwl: Remote viewing is like being a camera....... thus most likely the only source of info to the situation is visual
GS: It does not work through anyone else's mind or vision. An example is, say I, as monitor, ask you to remote view some building in Iran. (In governmental practice, the viewer works with a second person, a monitor who guides the remove viewer so that the viewer does not have to think about what he or she is viewing.)
You are able to get to the building and see it psychically. Then I, as monitor, can ask you to look at the roof, or at another side of the building or to enter it. There is no one at the building site such that you are "looking through their eyes" or moving them around to see sides of the building or getting them to fly so you can see the roof. It is just your mind that goes by its self to the locations your monitor selects. But as with the work which is done on the "Psychic Detectives" program on the cable TV Court channel, we must keep our own minds, our imaginations and our mind's intense desire to get in to analyzing whatever is being seen at bay. We have to completely suppress the mind's usual activities.
Dragonhearts4: OK, so mind link is like when you see through someone else's eyes, and like pick up on what they are thinking and feeling, and remote viewing is like third person for me, like above viewing something, right?
GS: The difference is this: Mind-link is seeing through another's eyes, picking up thought content from them, so that the other person is sending the thought data to you. He's the sender, you are the receiver. You are dependent upon what that other person is seeing or doing or thinking about for whatever you receive. Remote Viewing is more like you are sitting in a control booth, directing a remote controlled pilotless aircraft. You are in control of what you see and where the pilotless aircraft goes. Yet, it's more like there's someone standing behind your chair, the monitor telling you where to go and you are just following the monitor's flight instructions, not thinking about it.
One last cravat: Remote Viewing is not astral projection. The astral body (or at least a good part of it) remains in your physical body. What is out there on the remote location -- the remote viewer doesn't know or have a clue about before he or she starts viewing. But Remote Viewing can be very accurate and sometimes the information received can be very useful. The Military and the "spy" services of the United States have been using Remote Viewing for many years -- the USSR for even longer. One example was the location of a Marine Lt. Colonel who had been captured by rebel forces in Lebanon. Through Remote Viewing, he was located, the design and layout of the building he was held captive in was determined and a successful rescue mission brought him back.
First Stage of RVing
------------
GS: Now the first stage or step in Remote Viewing is in the here and now (or should we say "the there and now"?) In any event, present time. Now, for those who have REALLY developed Remote Viewing ability, you can RV the past, even back to Atlantis. And also see future events. I'd say that "Precognition" is just an extension of Remote Viewing. There are a couple of books out by Joseph McMoneagle which develop RVing but largely from a military and CIA perspective. These books are based on his experiences working as a Remote Viewer. But the major key to successful remote viewing is controlling the mind. Teaching the analytic and imaginative facilities of the mind to "SHUT UP" so a clear picture can come through, undistorted by one's own mind play. There's an organization in Atlanta GA that teaches Remote Viewing: www.farsight.org There are a couple of sites on the Internet that "test" remote viewing abilities. But, I'd stay away from them. They ask too many personal questions to be entirely trustworthy and above board.
NEXT WEEK
------------
OK. We've about exhausted the time available for this class. So next week we'll get into practical RVing. How it's done and how you can do it.
HOMEWORK:
------------
Continue Meditation, Journaling and Visualization practice. Be good to your Inner Child this week. Did someone say "ice cream"?
LAST QUESTIONS
----------------
OK any last questions before we close?
Dragonhearts4: The red haze stuff? What is the red haze stuff, just the energy they use to block?
GS: I haven't run into the red haze, but I've experienced the gray haze as "whoever" quickly puts up the barriers.
Dragonhearts4: Yes, seen that too but I have used, like a beam of light, like rubbing a hole or cleaning a dirty window to look through.
TimeWalkr: Grey is more complex, red is a basal reaction to a presence not understood.
Dragonhearts4: I think this is interesting although apparently haven't read up on it as much as some in class
Dragonhearts4: Yes, have you ever tried to remote view and had like a red haze around things, like blocking? What is that?
ImLadyAthena: How can one block self from being viewed in such a way? If you are not aware.. that would be hard.
Wdogstarr9: There are those who are aware of [anyone who is doing] RV'ing.
GS: Yes, that's quite true Wdog., I've been "caught" a couple of times peeking into military establishments.
Dragonhearts4: Can that give you a bad headache if someone "catches" you looking at a place? Yes Dragon or worse. You might find a contingent of military investigators on your doorstep. However, they are sophisticated enough now that they can block you from seeing whatever it is.
Wdogstarr9: US is way behind Soviets, they are trying to " catch up." Grail, Wren, have you told some of the physical symptoms some people can feel if they are being RV'd? One typical one is, a sharp pain in the upper right temporal area, another, a strong pull and pressure on the crown area. Many Remote Viewers have described these physical symptoms when others, from afar, were attempting to Remote View.
WrenOwl: What you're describing is more like a mind link because of the emotional capacity.
Wdogstarr9: They have even carried it to another, yet more lovely known art of Remote Assassination.
TimeWalkr: I'd say they ID'ed you, Grail
GS: Oh yes, TimeW. I was followed in astral for about two weeks by a USAF Lieutenant. I was looking at a clasasified area. LOL. But I guess they decided I was harmless.
TimeWalkr: Ha ha, Grail, bravo! Go for a major next time.
Dragonhearts4: Why would they waste time with me just for looking?
TimeWalkr: Because you might see too much
Dragonhearts4: Well, I don't get click clicks on the phone anymore.
GS: There is really a lot of psychic stuff going on behind the scenes, for sure.
TimeWalkr: Even in business.
TimeWalkr: You can see astral forms also when remote viewing, as they can see you astral..sometimes. And not all, in fact, a minority, are from this world
GS: Of course we could go on for hours on this, Timewalkr, but alas is time to close shop.
Log Entry: pubg400702099891757chat [Members - 0] 2/12/2007 09:42 PM