Post by Mysti on Jul 7, 2007 12:16:28 GMT -5
DREAMS AND ASTRAL SEEING
GS: Tonight is a sort of collection of topics.
DREAMS & ASTRAL EXCURSIONS
Just a short suggestion. When you go to bed at night, you might want to say a short affirmation to the effect that you are clad in your Armour of Light and that in all of your dreams and astral excursions, you remain consciously aware that you are clad in the Armour of Light and that you carry the Sword of the Spirit (or whatever weapon is appropriate to your path). You can also include a sentence stating where you want or expect to go in dreamland or in your astral body. Remember there are three parts to affirmation -- calling on the power, stating what you want, and thanking the power.
ASTRAL SEEING
This may differ for each of you. But I'll give you my experience and if you see differently, by all means tell us how it works for you. When I'm in the meditative state (eyes closed) if I look straight forward as if I were looking through my physical eyes, I see the lower astral. To see the Higher Astral and higher planes, I need to feel as though I'm looking through my forehead. My best guess is that focusing a bit higher mentally activates the third eye more fully. The trick is to keep your physical eyes looking straight forward (eyes closed) while shifting your mental "looking" to the forehead and looking through the forehead.
Then, you may need to recognize that the Upper Astral is sort of beyond what you are seeing in the Lower Astral. You might see a door or gate for your vision to go through, or maybe a dense cloud to mentally push through to get to the Upper Astral. The Lower Astral is or appears as shades of gray, but when you do get through that plane to the Upper Astral, you'll see in vibrant colors, dominantly white.
Dragonhearts4: I just like think and then like go through a hallway-like tunnel and I am there. vibrant colors.
GS: That is great way to do it. The tunnel, I'd guess is dark? OK. We all seem to experience this a bit differently, one from another.
Dragonhearts4: Yes, [dark]. Usually go to visit, and they are waiting for me or get there soon after I do
GS: But, when you get to the Upper planes, you will see in bright colors.
Dragonhearts4: Like glows with its own energy
GS: If it is grays or very washed out colors, it's lower astral. Yes, much like what those in NDE's tell us.
Dragonhearts4: Daughter said she is known on that side, they go to meet her
GS: HMedium, how do you experience this?
HMedium1: Well, there are several ways I see the Upper Astral . . . I see it directly and indirectly . . . Indirectly is a mental plane . . . directly I am in the middle of it . . . eyes open or shut interact with the beings I meet with on that side. So its seemingly like they come to me rather than I go to them.
GS: And indirectly, you're sort of an observer? They come to you -- sort of bringing the astral with them?
HMedium1: Yes you could say that. Yes they manifest for me.
GS: OK, that makes sense, fits for me.
GS: Wrennie, your thoughts?
WrenOwl: Color is more 'real' than anything that is seen down here . . . on the astral, you 'live' color and colors that don't exist down here, exist there . . . and they are beautiful.
Dragonhearts4: Yes, so beautiful.
THE LIGHT IN YOUR HEAD
GS: I'm sure you've all experienced moments in meditation where you are aware of a light -- white or golden or bluish white -- in your head. My mind tends to get excited. "Oh boy, there's the light" and as soon as that happens, the light is gone. So, I need more practice in stilling the mind. The Light may appear on one side of the head or the other, or more commonly as though it's directly behind you. -- behind the focal point where you feel your conscious mind to be. This is your Higher Self when it is active. Ideally, the time comes when your entire head feels filled with light -- but you've got to be a pretty advanced adept for that to happen.
HMedium1: LOL . . . That is changing vibration frequencies . . . very technical and takes practice holding that. As soon as we think we drop back to physical frequency.
NOT FULLY IN THE BODY
Dragonhearts4: is that like when you get back and you don't feel all back?
GS: Good question. What do you think Wrennie?
HMedium1: When you don't feel like youÂ’re all back . . . means youÂ’re not properly seated or grounded into your body
WrenOwl: Dragon. When that happens, you're not fully in body . . . and if you're not fully in body then you have to get back into it . . . otherwise there could be some problems. I've had a friend help me get back into body on a few occasions. Sometimes we do need help. Other times itÂ’s easy to slip back in.
Dragonhearts4: OK, sometimes takes a bit to like get all back in
WrenOwl: Well, one way is to work with grounding skills . . . and imagine your connection to mother earth . . . but this time go more to the core of mother earth and plant roots there . . . then reach back up towards the stars . . . and connect back that way. I'll have to ask her what else she does . . . it works for me . . . hate being half in . . .
ImLadyAthena: I find it helps to get up and move around. Some times eat some thing. And be in the NOW
MENTAL SCREENS
GS: This may help or maybe not at all. But you might try sort of setting up mental theater-like movie screens in your head. And then try to see the Upper Astral as though it is just outside your forehead. The lower astral screen then would be just inside the forehead but a bit lower down. And then the "fuzzy" decision-making screen used by the conscious mind would probably seem to be about a third of the way from the third eye to the crown chakra. The manifesting g screen would locate itself maybe two thirds of the way from the forehead to the crown chakra. This has been my experience but it may all work differently for you. So it's something to experiment with--to see if it works that way or some similar way for you. And it may well be that for some of us, these separate theater-like screens all merge into one single screen. And, when seeing astral entities like angels, I see them with my mind's eye, very often behind me.
ASTRAL LEVELS
Dragonhearts4: for me like right now I am here and there at same time
Dragonhearts4: there are levels there also though
Wdogstarr9: separation seems to be a needed allusion for sanityÂ’s sake, only a mere vibrational transition separates.
Dragonhearts4: LOL, hubby said something like that . . . He said I like the organization of the levels.
GS: For me, Dragon, it feels like the astral world is superimposed on the physical world. I'm in one place, but there are two or more places simultaneously present where I'm at.
Wdogstarr9: Aren't we always in the " astral" in a sense?
Dragonhearts4: Yes simultaneous and slight vibrational differences.
Wdogstarr9: If we could only all learn to adapt to the different vibrations that would be infinity.
THE AMPHITHEATER
Dragonhearts4: have you been to like an amphitheater [in the astral]? Anyone?
Wdogstarr9: yes Heart, with gates.
HMedium1: Years ago Dragon
THE LIBRARY
Dragonhearts4: what about the library? [Has anyone been there?]
Wdogstarr9: Sacred records combined with the numerous libraries in Foucault's pendulum
Dragonhearts4: Yes, they are kept there and writing like gold light script. There are many things there, some things I don't have access to. I have even seen holograms there. There is, like doors up, but no stairs, in one area that is a round room that goes up with doors around and there are stairs in other part.
GS: Wrennie, you go to the astral "library" at times, don't you?
WrenOwl: Yeah, libraries are manifested in my vision of them . . . meaning they are a bit like Hogwarts . . . and a bit like an Umberto Ecco novel . . . something about the name of the rose or something like that . . . ancient medieval library.
ImLadyAthena: my granddaughter will come up with some deep thoughts. I will ask her where did she learn that. She says "Oh, I read it in a book at the library."
Dragonhearts4: Wdogstarr9: this gives new meaning to the phrase “Silence is Golden" . . .
Dragonhearts4: glad to hear many of you have been there also
GS: If you ever visit "Astral University," the library there seems most interesting -- it appears to link directly to the Library of Akashic Records, but it's tricky to get into the Akashic Records part.
Wdogstarr9: Yes, it is a granted permission and must be respected, it seems.
WrenOwl: BTW, you're not just given library cards . . . you have to earn them. But, thereÂ’s nothing like finding yourself on the library floor reading a book and not knowing how you got there.
HOMEWORK:
Continue Meditation, Journaling, Visualization exercises. Be good to that "little one" inside.
NEXT WEEK: PSYCHIC READINGS and CHANNELINGS -
Next week, I plan to get deeply into Psychic Readings, Channeling and related matters.
Cautions, prophecy, reliability, etc.
GS: Thank you Wrennie for your input. Thank you ARIEL for being with us.
GS: Tonight is a sort of collection of topics.
DREAMS & ASTRAL EXCURSIONS
Just a short suggestion. When you go to bed at night, you might want to say a short affirmation to the effect that you are clad in your Armour of Light and that in all of your dreams and astral excursions, you remain consciously aware that you are clad in the Armour of Light and that you carry the Sword of the Spirit (or whatever weapon is appropriate to your path). You can also include a sentence stating where you want or expect to go in dreamland or in your astral body. Remember there are three parts to affirmation -- calling on the power, stating what you want, and thanking the power.
ASTRAL SEEING
This may differ for each of you. But I'll give you my experience and if you see differently, by all means tell us how it works for you. When I'm in the meditative state (eyes closed) if I look straight forward as if I were looking through my physical eyes, I see the lower astral. To see the Higher Astral and higher planes, I need to feel as though I'm looking through my forehead. My best guess is that focusing a bit higher mentally activates the third eye more fully. The trick is to keep your physical eyes looking straight forward (eyes closed) while shifting your mental "looking" to the forehead and looking through the forehead.
Then, you may need to recognize that the Upper Astral is sort of beyond what you are seeing in the Lower Astral. You might see a door or gate for your vision to go through, or maybe a dense cloud to mentally push through to get to the Upper Astral. The Lower Astral is or appears as shades of gray, but when you do get through that plane to the Upper Astral, you'll see in vibrant colors, dominantly white.
Dragonhearts4: I just like think and then like go through a hallway-like tunnel and I am there. vibrant colors.
GS: That is great way to do it. The tunnel, I'd guess is dark? OK. We all seem to experience this a bit differently, one from another.
Dragonhearts4: Yes, [dark]. Usually go to visit, and they are waiting for me or get there soon after I do
GS: But, when you get to the Upper planes, you will see in bright colors.
Dragonhearts4: Like glows with its own energy
GS: If it is grays or very washed out colors, it's lower astral. Yes, much like what those in NDE's tell us.
Dragonhearts4: Daughter said she is known on that side, they go to meet her
GS: HMedium, how do you experience this?
HMedium1: Well, there are several ways I see the Upper Astral . . . I see it directly and indirectly . . . Indirectly is a mental plane . . . directly I am in the middle of it . . . eyes open or shut interact with the beings I meet with on that side. So its seemingly like they come to me rather than I go to them.
GS: And indirectly, you're sort of an observer? They come to you -- sort of bringing the astral with them?
HMedium1: Yes you could say that. Yes they manifest for me.
GS: OK, that makes sense, fits for me.
GS: Wrennie, your thoughts?
WrenOwl: Color is more 'real' than anything that is seen down here . . . on the astral, you 'live' color and colors that don't exist down here, exist there . . . and they are beautiful.
Dragonhearts4: Yes, so beautiful.
THE LIGHT IN YOUR HEAD
GS: I'm sure you've all experienced moments in meditation where you are aware of a light -- white or golden or bluish white -- in your head. My mind tends to get excited. "Oh boy, there's the light" and as soon as that happens, the light is gone. So, I need more practice in stilling the mind. The Light may appear on one side of the head or the other, or more commonly as though it's directly behind you. -- behind the focal point where you feel your conscious mind to be. This is your Higher Self when it is active. Ideally, the time comes when your entire head feels filled with light -- but you've got to be a pretty advanced adept for that to happen.
HMedium1: LOL . . . That is changing vibration frequencies . . . very technical and takes practice holding that. As soon as we think we drop back to physical frequency.
NOT FULLY IN THE BODY
Dragonhearts4: is that like when you get back and you don't feel all back?
GS: Good question. What do you think Wrennie?
HMedium1: When you don't feel like youÂ’re all back . . . means youÂ’re not properly seated or grounded into your body
WrenOwl: Dragon. When that happens, you're not fully in body . . . and if you're not fully in body then you have to get back into it . . . otherwise there could be some problems. I've had a friend help me get back into body on a few occasions. Sometimes we do need help. Other times itÂ’s easy to slip back in.
Dragonhearts4: OK, sometimes takes a bit to like get all back in
WrenOwl: Well, one way is to work with grounding skills . . . and imagine your connection to mother earth . . . but this time go more to the core of mother earth and plant roots there . . . then reach back up towards the stars . . . and connect back that way. I'll have to ask her what else she does . . . it works for me . . . hate being half in . . .
ImLadyAthena: I find it helps to get up and move around. Some times eat some thing. And be in the NOW
MENTAL SCREENS
GS: This may help or maybe not at all. But you might try sort of setting up mental theater-like movie screens in your head. And then try to see the Upper Astral as though it is just outside your forehead. The lower astral screen then would be just inside the forehead but a bit lower down. And then the "fuzzy" decision-making screen used by the conscious mind would probably seem to be about a third of the way from the third eye to the crown chakra. The manifesting g screen would locate itself maybe two thirds of the way from the forehead to the crown chakra. This has been my experience but it may all work differently for you. So it's something to experiment with--to see if it works that way or some similar way for you. And it may well be that for some of us, these separate theater-like screens all merge into one single screen. And, when seeing astral entities like angels, I see them with my mind's eye, very often behind me.
ASTRAL LEVELS
Dragonhearts4: for me like right now I am here and there at same time
Dragonhearts4: there are levels there also though
Wdogstarr9: separation seems to be a needed allusion for sanityÂ’s sake, only a mere vibrational transition separates.
Dragonhearts4: LOL, hubby said something like that . . . He said I like the organization of the levels.
GS: For me, Dragon, it feels like the astral world is superimposed on the physical world. I'm in one place, but there are two or more places simultaneously present where I'm at.
Wdogstarr9: Aren't we always in the " astral" in a sense?
Dragonhearts4: Yes simultaneous and slight vibrational differences.
Wdogstarr9: If we could only all learn to adapt to the different vibrations that would be infinity.
THE AMPHITHEATER
Dragonhearts4: have you been to like an amphitheater [in the astral]? Anyone?
Wdogstarr9: yes Heart, with gates.
HMedium1: Years ago Dragon
THE LIBRARY
Dragonhearts4: what about the library? [Has anyone been there?]
Wdogstarr9: Sacred records combined with the numerous libraries in Foucault's pendulum
Dragonhearts4: Yes, they are kept there and writing like gold light script. There are many things there, some things I don't have access to. I have even seen holograms there. There is, like doors up, but no stairs, in one area that is a round room that goes up with doors around and there are stairs in other part.
GS: Wrennie, you go to the astral "library" at times, don't you?
WrenOwl: Yeah, libraries are manifested in my vision of them . . . meaning they are a bit like Hogwarts . . . and a bit like an Umberto Ecco novel . . . something about the name of the rose or something like that . . . ancient medieval library.
ImLadyAthena: my granddaughter will come up with some deep thoughts. I will ask her where did she learn that. She says "Oh, I read it in a book at the library."
Dragonhearts4: Wdogstarr9: this gives new meaning to the phrase “Silence is Golden" . . .
Dragonhearts4: glad to hear many of you have been there also
GS: If you ever visit "Astral University," the library there seems most interesting -- it appears to link directly to the Library of Akashic Records, but it's tricky to get into the Akashic Records part.
Wdogstarr9: Yes, it is a granted permission and must be respected, it seems.
WrenOwl: BTW, you're not just given library cards . . . you have to earn them. But, thereÂ’s nothing like finding yourself on the library floor reading a book and not knowing how you got there.
HOMEWORK:
Continue Meditation, Journaling, Visualization exercises. Be good to that "little one" inside.
NEXT WEEK: PSYCHIC READINGS and CHANNELINGS -
Next week, I plan to get deeply into Psychic Readings, Channeling and related matters.
Cautions, prophecy, reliability, etc.
GS: Thank you Wrennie for your input. Thank you ARIEL for being with us.