Post by Mysti on Aug 6, 2007 19:34:15 GMT -5
Mysti : everyone ready?
EternalLighthouse : yep
DraconicKnight : yip
spiritofthelynx : yes
Zephryus : yipidee doodaw
Mysti : ok for referance i am dropping last weeks transcript links
Mysti : h/o pulling them up
Mysti : groups.msn.com/FreedomOfSpiritualityTM/classesinfo.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=25117&LastModified=4675610870673138680
Mysti : fos members
DraconicKnight : ty
EternalLighthouse : ty
Mysti : groups.msn.com/MysticForestLibrary/mystisclasses.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=824&LastModified=4675610871823082768
Mysti : forest members
DraconicKnight : ty
DraconicKnight : I'm in both
EternalLighthouse : ty
EternalLighthouse : me too
DraconicKnight : Copy cat
spiritofthelynx :
EternalLighthouse : was there first
Mysti : ok .. now.. if u scroll down to the end u will be able to refresh ur memory about the homework i assigned
Mysti : what would u do..
Mysti : and why..
DraconicKnight : Save my love one
Mysti : i gave u a whole week to think it over
4Nova has joined the conversation.
DraconicKnight : Hi Nova
EternalLighthouse : hi nova
Seeker : hi Nova
Mysti : what was ur first response dk?? emotion wise?
Mysti : namaste novie
Nova : hi
Zephryus : hi narville
Nova : lol
DraconicKnight : I would have to try to save them and know Karma would get the person
Mysti : emotions tho.. grief anger??
EternalLighthouse : actually, the robber got hit by a car
DraconicKnight : Love is stronger than hate
Mysti : lol elh
EternalLighthouse : yes
DraconicKnight : Panic would be the word
DraconicKnight : However anger would motavte me
Mysti : ok.. the aim of the exercise was to show you that you have within you both light and dark.. being who and what we are.. sometimes we kid ourselves to believe we are totally good.. which none of us are
EternalLighthouse : you have to have a balance
Mysti : its for u to explore your own emotional status as well as motives
Mysti : yes
DraconicKnight : "break"
Mysti : yes dk?
DraconicKnight : But anger is a form of fear and thats what I would feel
Mysti : correct
Mysti : emotions are for the most part a combination of several emotions
Mysti : the very first thing u must learn when working w/ magick is who you are in your own mind and spirit
Mysti : you must know your own motivations
Mysti : and get control of ur dark side
Mysti : its not an easy task as we are constantly growing and learning about ourselves
Mysti : but above all you must be truthful to yourself about ur motives
Mysti : its the only thing that will save ur butt karma wise in the end
Mysti : question or comments ?
DraconicKnight : No mame
Allan2nd : nty
EternalLighthouse : no
spiritofthelynx : nty
Nova : no
Mysti : ok now to continue from review to the next part of the class
Mysti : this class is on ethics
Mysti : whenever i do a new series of classes .. esp if they are basic ones i review ethics
Mysti : there are many paths in here and not all of you follow the rede
Allan2nd : nope
Mysti : the other side of the coin to the rede is the "golden rule"
Mysti : anyone know what that is?
DraconicKnight : Oh yes
Mysti : care to put it out into chat dk?
spiritofthelynx : and it harm none
EternalLighthouse : do unto others as you would have done to you
Nova nods
Mysti : yes thats it
DraconicKnight : Do unto others as you would have them do unto you
Mysti : yup
Mysti : now..
Seeker : He Who Has The Gold Makes The Rules
Seeker :
EternalLighthouse : lol
Allan2nd : lol
Mysti swats seeker
Mysti : now..
Mysti : first i am going to cover the rede..
Mysti : because it has some basic things in it most dont understand completely
Mysti : the first part i want to cover
Mysti : bide ye the wiccan law ye must .. in perfect love and perfect trust
Mysti : sound pretty simple??
EternalLighthouse : no
DraconicKnight : yes
Seeker : no
Mysti : now.. who can tell me what perfect love is?
EternalLighthouse : exactly
DraconicKnight : Me
EternalLighthouse : swat
Mysti : ok dk ur on the hot seat.. seriously.. what is it?
Seeker : perfect love is Divine Love .... only found in the Heavenly realm
DraconicKnight : Would be like I would give a arm for you
Mysti : no seeker.. it can be found here on the physical realm
Mysti : not exactly dk
Seeker : don't agree .... but that's ok
Mysti : i shall explain
Mysti : perfect love is something that transends all that is
Mysti : it is understanding who someone is and loving them regardless... even if you must walk away from them
Mysti : elh .. could u love someone that would hurt u?
EternalLighthouse : no
EternalLighthouse : not exactly
Nova : yes
DraconicKnight : Yes
EternalLighthouse : i love but don't stay
Mysti : that is perfect love..
EternalLighthouse : i love myself also
Mysti : it is knowing when to let go
Mysti : and when to hold on
Mysti : it is understanding
DraconicKnight : Like our kids
Mysti : and infinate
Mysti : yes
Mysti : even if our children murdered we would still love them
Mysti : we would know we couldnt be around them but that wouldnt stop the love
Mysti : does everyone understand this concept?
EternalLighthouse : yes
DraconicKnight : Yes
Nova : yep
Mysti : ok now lets move on..
Mysti : perfect trust
Mysti : this may seem very impossible
Mysti : can u trust a thief?
EternalLighthouse : no
DraconicKnight : I try
4Flutterby has joined the conversation.
EternalLighthouse : depends on the type of theft
Mysti : namaste flutters welcome to class
EternalLighthouse : hi flutters
Flutterby : Namaste Beloveds!!
Flutterby : ty
Mysti : each person is who they are
Flutterby : yes
Mysti : if they are a thief .. then you can trust them to be one
Mysti : if they are a killer.. u can trust them to be that as well
Mysti : we are talking about what a person is..
EternalLighthouse : oh, i see where you are coming from
Mysti : that is what perfect trust is about
Mysti : i trust you to be who you are
Mysti : and what you are
Mysti : i trust that you may change .. and when you show me that i will change my thought and trust
Mysti : there is a story about a boy and a snake that my mentor told me when explaining these concepts
Mysti : an indian boy on his first vision quest went up high into the mountians
Mysti : all he had w/ him was the clothes on his back and a blanket..
Mysti : he made a fire and placed his blanket before it
Mysti : then he sought his vision
Mysti : it took him two days to achieve it
Mysti : when he had he began to break camp
Mysti : it was then he saw the rattle snake curled up by the dying embers of the fire
Mysti : the snake pleaded w/ him to take him down the mountian where it was warmer
Mysti : because the snake was dying in the cold
Mysti : the boy refused saying "you will bite me"
Mysti : the snake pleaded w/ him saying that he would not because he would save his life
Mysti : the boy being kind and compassionate thought this over and decided to trust the snake
Mysti : he put the snake in his tunic and headed down the mountian
Mysti : as the snake got warmer and warmer he wrapped himself around the boy
Mysti : when they reached the bottom of the mountian the boy took the snake and put it on the ground
Mysti : immediately the snake coiled up and bit the boy on the foot
Mysti : as the boy lay dying he asked the snake why he did it when he promised not to
Mysti : the snake hissed as the went away "u knew what i was when u picked me up"
Mysti : this is the way it is w/ all things
Mysti : we take chances every day w/ people and events
Mysti : sometimes we are lucky
Mysti : sometimes we are smart
Mysti : but everyone and everything has an identity
Mysti : a thief will be a theif
Mysti : a rattle snake will be just that too
Mysti : we are who we are
Mysti : perfect trust means knowing and understanding who and what you are dealing w/
Mysti : and trusting them to be as they are
Mysti : they cannot break that trust.. it would be impossible
Mysti : understand?
spiritofthelynx : yes
DraconicKnight : yes
EternalLighthouse : yes
Zephryus : i have to go, nite
Nova : yup
DraconicKnight : Goodnight Zeph
EternalLighthouse : hugs and blessings
spiritofthelynx : night
Nova : nite Zeph
Mysti : namaste zephie
DraconicKnight : Blessings
Zephryus : blessings
Seeker : 'nite Zeph
4Zephryus has left the conversation.
Mysti : ok
Mysti : now lets get to the next concept
Mysti : an' it harm none do what you will
Mysti : sound simple?
EternalLighthouse : nope
Flutterby : yes I do
EternalLighthouse : you have to take into account of yourself
Mysti : there is alot more going on behind the scenes then just the immediate situation before you
Mysti : you must consider all actions way into the future
Mysti : no one can be completely accurate at this
Mysti : there is so much to forsee
Mysti : lets take the basic visualization to demonstrate this
Mysti : you have before you a crystal clear pond
Mysti : the water is glassy and beautiful
Mysti : no movement
Mysti : the air is calm and birds rest in the trees near by
Mysti : do u all have this in ur minds?
EternalLighthouse : yes
Flutterby : yes
spiritofthelynx : yes
DraconicKnight : yes
Mysti : there is a big stone by ur feet pick it up and toss it in
Allan2nd : yes
Mysti : as u toss it it sails thru the air and makes a huge loud splash
Allan2nd : okies
Mysti : now .. look at ur surroundings
Mysti : not so peaceful anymore are they?
spiritofthelynx : nope
Allan2nd : no
DraconicKnight : no
Mysti : the ripples in the pond go on forever..
Mysti : you have disturbed any fish or aquatic life
Mysti : the bottom of the pond is disturbed now too.. the water is murky
Mysti : so u cannot see all of the effects
Mysti : but also .. not just the pond is affected
Mysti : look around you
Mysti : the wildlife around has been spooked as well
Mysti : w/ a seemingly harmless toss of a rock .. you have disturbed a great deal
Mysti : that is how it is w/ life
Mysti : every action.. every reaction... has a reaction
Mysti : and so it flows on and on
4wolftwigg has joined the conversation.
Mysti : that is how the energy in the univers works
Mysti : namaste wolf
EternalLighthouse : hi wolf
spiritofthelynx : mm wolf
wolftwigg : mm every one
DraconicKnight : Welcome wolf
Mysti : questions on this section?
Seeker : hi wolf
EternalLighthouse : no
DraconicKnight : No
Nova : no
spiritofthelynx : nty
Mysti : that is universal law
Flutterby : Hi Wolf! not I
Katn : I have to switch pc's and im not sure I will be back in here, so if you need any help to to the help desk and whisper a sysma or a guide
EternalLighthouse : k
DraconicKnight : Okay
Katn :
4Katn has left the conversation.
Mysti : the next universal law i want to go over is karmic law
Mysti : what is everyone's understanding of this?
spiritofthelynx : what goes around comes around
DraconicKnight : 3 fold
Mysti : basically
EternalLighthouse : you have to work through what you did
Mysti : yes the law of three plays into it
EternalLighthouse : in past
Mysti : yes that too
Mysti : anything else?
Nova : what you send out to the universe comes back
Mysti : eys
Mysti : yes*
Nova : man is but a strand in the web og life
Nova : what is done to the web is doine to all
Mysti : yes
Mysti : anyone else?
4Lonewolf1 has joined the conversation.
Flutterby : Hi Lone!
EternalLighthouse : hi lone, welcome to class
wolftwigg : mm lone
Lonewolf1 : Hi all
Mysti : namaste lone welcome to class
Lonewolf1 : MM
Seeker : hi Lone
Lonewolf1 : Namaste
Mysti : ok what you all have told me is quite true about universal law
Mysti : now let me link a few things to it so we can see how it is all linked together
Mysti : the christian phrase "do unto others as you would have them do to u"
Allan2nd : yes
Mysti : this is a referance to universal law
Mysti : the law of three
Lonewolf1 : do what you wish harm none
Mysti : what ever you do is returned to you times three good or bad
Mysti : if you return to the image of the pond that i gave you
Mysti : you can see that everything was linked
Mysti : inside and outside of the pond
Lonewolf1 : yes
Mysti : the same is true for the universe
Mysti : the universe is made up of energy
Mysti : as w/ all energy it must remain in ballance
Mysti : so to ballance itself
Mysti : the universe will respond by sending back to the sender any energy sent out
Mysti : like a mirror
Mysti : it may not be ur own energy that is returned
Mysti : but it will come back
Mysti : to demonstrate this
Mysti : i want you all to think back
Mysti : to a time in ur life where you hurt someone or did something that you should not have done
Mysti : normally the return of the energy takes three months or less
Lonewolf1 : Another important Universal law is the Law Of Attraction im sensing that will be where your going lol
Mysti : so get fixed in ur mind that action..
Mysti : lone please .. we are having class..
Mysti : lets stay on task
Lonewolf1 : sorry
Mysti : now find the reaction
Mysti : do u see it?
Lonewolf1 : some one will hurt you
spiritofthelynx : yes
DraconicKnight : Yes
Nova : nods
Mysti : that is the action of universal law
Mysti : and the return of the energy
Mysti : there are some who do not go by the law of three
Mysti : or the rede
Allan2nd :
Mysti : they take into account what they do ..
Mysti : and consider the consequences
Mysti : if they are willing to deal w/ that then they go ahead
Mysti : that is done in most shamanic paths
Mysti : and some witches who are not wiccans and do not hold to that path at all
Mysti : are like that as well
Mysti : chaos magick and law is a bit different
Mysti : i will not go into that.. but we have one here who is quite familiar w/ it
Mysti : the universe is universal in its dealing w/ energy tho
Mysti : it will return what is given
Mysti : it is up to u to decide if you are willing to accept the risk
Mysti : questions or comments?
spiritofthelynx : nty
DraconicKnight : NTY
Allan2nd : nty
Lonewolf1 : nty
Nova : nty
Flutterby : nty
Mysti : now .. all of this is combined and served up as different laws in different paths
Mysti : but the ideas are again universal
Mysti : all paths are very much alike in this
Mysti : now class has been an hr and i will end here.. next week we will start out w/ a review and then i will look over and see if i have missed anything.. i dont think i have
Mysti : homework for tonight
Mysti : i love homework dont u?
EternalLighthouse : no
Mysti : awe
Lonewolf1 : lol
DraconicKnight : lol
spiritofthelynx :
Flutterby : sure....
Mysti : if you have not started a journal.. now is the time to do so
Allan2nd : nooooooooo
Mysti : this is for you as you will change throughout ur magickal carrerr
DraconicKnight : yesssssss
Mysti : lol allan
Mysti : i want you to write down your ethics
Mysti : this is a part of who you are
Mysti : what you value
Mysti : what you feel is wrong and right
Mysti : this is the basics of urself as a practitioner
Mysti : okes?
DraconicKnight : ok
EternalLighthouse : yep
Nova : yup
spiritofthelynx : ok
Mysti : any questions before i end?
Flutterby : yup
EternalLighthouse : sorry i put in the comment earlier
Lonewolf1 : ok
Allan2nd thinks heavily
spiritofthelynx : no ty
Mysti : tis ok elh
DraconicKnight : none here
Mysti : then that is class
Allan2nd : ty for clas sister
EternalLighthouse : i had seen the light, so to speak
Nova : ty
spiritofthelynx : thank you for a great class sis
EternalLighthouse : ty, great class
EternalLighthouse : yep
DraconicKnight : yip
spiritofthelynx : yes
Zephryus : yipidee doodaw
Mysti : ok for referance i am dropping last weeks transcript links
Mysti : h/o pulling them up
Mysti : groups.msn.com/FreedomOfSpiritualityTM/classesinfo.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=25117&LastModified=4675610870673138680
Mysti : fos members
DraconicKnight : ty
EternalLighthouse : ty
Mysti : groups.msn.com/MysticForestLibrary/mystisclasses.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=824&LastModified=4675610871823082768
Mysti : forest members
DraconicKnight : ty
DraconicKnight : I'm in both
EternalLighthouse : ty
EternalLighthouse : me too
DraconicKnight : Copy cat
spiritofthelynx :
EternalLighthouse : was there first
Mysti : ok .. now.. if u scroll down to the end u will be able to refresh ur memory about the homework i assigned
Mysti : what would u do..
Mysti : and why..
DraconicKnight : Save my love one
Mysti : i gave u a whole week to think it over
4Nova has joined the conversation.
DraconicKnight : Hi Nova
EternalLighthouse : hi nova
Seeker : hi Nova
Mysti : what was ur first response dk?? emotion wise?
Mysti : namaste novie
Nova : hi
Zephryus : hi narville
Nova : lol
DraconicKnight : I would have to try to save them and know Karma would get the person
Mysti : emotions tho.. grief anger??
EternalLighthouse : actually, the robber got hit by a car
DraconicKnight : Love is stronger than hate
Mysti : lol elh
EternalLighthouse : yes
DraconicKnight : Panic would be the word
DraconicKnight : However anger would motavte me
Mysti : ok.. the aim of the exercise was to show you that you have within you both light and dark.. being who and what we are.. sometimes we kid ourselves to believe we are totally good.. which none of us are
EternalLighthouse : you have to have a balance
Mysti : its for u to explore your own emotional status as well as motives
Mysti : yes
DraconicKnight : "break"
Mysti : yes dk?
DraconicKnight : But anger is a form of fear and thats what I would feel
Mysti : correct
Mysti : emotions are for the most part a combination of several emotions
Mysti : the very first thing u must learn when working w/ magick is who you are in your own mind and spirit
Mysti : you must know your own motivations
Mysti : and get control of ur dark side
Mysti : its not an easy task as we are constantly growing and learning about ourselves
Mysti : but above all you must be truthful to yourself about ur motives
Mysti : its the only thing that will save ur butt karma wise in the end
Mysti : question or comments ?
DraconicKnight : No mame
Allan2nd : nty
EternalLighthouse : no
spiritofthelynx : nty
Nova : no
Mysti : ok now to continue from review to the next part of the class
Mysti : this class is on ethics
Mysti : whenever i do a new series of classes .. esp if they are basic ones i review ethics
Mysti : there are many paths in here and not all of you follow the rede
Allan2nd : nope
Mysti : the other side of the coin to the rede is the "golden rule"
Mysti : anyone know what that is?
DraconicKnight : Oh yes
Mysti : care to put it out into chat dk?
spiritofthelynx : and it harm none
EternalLighthouse : do unto others as you would have done to you
Nova nods
Mysti : yes thats it
DraconicKnight : Do unto others as you would have them do unto you
Mysti : yup
Mysti : now..
Seeker : He Who Has The Gold Makes The Rules
Seeker :
EternalLighthouse : lol
Allan2nd : lol
Mysti swats seeker
Mysti : now..
Mysti : first i am going to cover the rede..
Mysti : because it has some basic things in it most dont understand completely
Mysti : the first part i want to cover
Mysti : bide ye the wiccan law ye must .. in perfect love and perfect trust
Mysti : sound pretty simple??
EternalLighthouse : no
DraconicKnight : yes
Seeker : no
Mysti : now.. who can tell me what perfect love is?
EternalLighthouse : exactly
DraconicKnight : Me
EternalLighthouse : swat
Mysti : ok dk ur on the hot seat.. seriously.. what is it?
Seeker : perfect love is Divine Love .... only found in the Heavenly realm
DraconicKnight : Would be like I would give a arm for you
Mysti : no seeker.. it can be found here on the physical realm
Mysti : not exactly dk
Seeker : don't agree .... but that's ok
Mysti : i shall explain
Mysti : perfect love is something that transends all that is
Mysti : it is understanding who someone is and loving them regardless... even if you must walk away from them
Mysti : elh .. could u love someone that would hurt u?
EternalLighthouse : no
EternalLighthouse : not exactly
Nova : yes
DraconicKnight : Yes
EternalLighthouse : i love but don't stay
Mysti : that is perfect love..
EternalLighthouse : i love myself also
Mysti : it is knowing when to let go
Mysti : and when to hold on
Mysti : it is understanding
DraconicKnight : Like our kids
Mysti : and infinate
Mysti : yes
Mysti : even if our children murdered we would still love them
Mysti : we would know we couldnt be around them but that wouldnt stop the love
Mysti : does everyone understand this concept?
EternalLighthouse : yes
DraconicKnight : Yes
Nova : yep
Mysti : ok now lets move on..
Mysti : perfect trust
Mysti : this may seem very impossible
Mysti : can u trust a thief?
EternalLighthouse : no
DraconicKnight : I try
4Flutterby has joined the conversation.
EternalLighthouse : depends on the type of theft
Mysti : namaste flutters welcome to class
EternalLighthouse : hi flutters
Flutterby : Namaste Beloveds!!
Flutterby : ty
Mysti : each person is who they are
Flutterby : yes
Mysti : if they are a thief .. then you can trust them to be one
Mysti : if they are a killer.. u can trust them to be that as well
Mysti : we are talking about what a person is..
EternalLighthouse : oh, i see where you are coming from
Mysti : that is what perfect trust is about
Mysti : i trust you to be who you are
Mysti : and what you are
Mysti : i trust that you may change .. and when you show me that i will change my thought and trust
Mysti : there is a story about a boy and a snake that my mentor told me when explaining these concepts
Mysti : an indian boy on his first vision quest went up high into the mountians
Mysti : all he had w/ him was the clothes on his back and a blanket..
Mysti : he made a fire and placed his blanket before it
Mysti : then he sought his vision
Mysti : it took him two days to achieve it
Mysti : when he had he began to break camp
Mysti : it was then he saw the rattle snake curled up by the dying embers of the fire
Mysti : the snake pleaded w/ him to take him down the mountian where it was warmer
Mysti : because the snake was dying in the cold
Mysti : the boy refused saying "you will bite me"
Mysti : the snake pleaded w/ him saying that he would not because he would save his life
Mysti : the boy being kind and compassionate thought this over and decided to trust the snake
Mysti : he put the snake in his tunic and headed down the mountian
Mysti : as the snake got warmer and warmer he wrapped himself around the boy
Mysti : when they reached the bottom of the mountian the boy took the snake and put it on the ground
Mysti : immediately the snake coiled up and bit the boy on the foot
Mysti : as the boy lay dying he asked the snake why he did it when he promised not to
Mysti : the snake hissed as the went away "u knew what i was when u picked me up"
Mysti : this is the way it is w/ all things
Mysti : we take chances every day w/ people and events
Mysti : sometimes we are lucky
Mysti : sometimes we are smart
Mysti : but everyone and everything has an identity
Mysti : a thief will be a theif
Mysti : a rattle snake will be just that too
Mysti : we are who we are
Mysti : perfect trust means knowing and understanding who and what you are dealing w/
Mysti : and trusting them to be as they are
Mysti : they cannot break that trust.. it would be impossible
Mysti : understand?
spiritofthelynx : yes
DraconicKnight : yes
EternalLighthouse : yes
Zephryus : i have to go, nite
Nova : yup
DraconicKnight : Goodnight Zeph
EternalLighthouse : hugs and blessings
spiritofthelynx : night
Nova : nite Zeph
Mysti : namaste zephie
DraconicKnight : Blessings
Zephryus : blessings
Seeker : 'nite Zeph
4Zephryus has left the conversation.
Mysti : ok
Mysti : now lets get to the next concept
Mysti : an' it harm none do what you will
Mysti : sound simple?
EternalLighthouse : nope
Flutterby : yes I do
EternalLighthouse : you have to take into account of yourself
Mysti : there is alot more going on behind the scenes then just the immediate situation before you
Mysti : you must consider all actions way into the future
Mysti : no one can be completely accurate at this
Mysti : there is so much to forsee
Mysti : lets take the basic visualization to demonstrate this
Mysti : you have before you a crystal clear pond
Mysti : the water is glassy and beautiful
Mysti : no movement
Mysti : the air is calm and birds rest in the trees near by
Mysti : do u all have this in ur minds?
EternalLighthouse : yes
Flutterby : yes
spiritofthelynx : yes
DraconicKnight : yes
Mysti : there is a big stone by ur feet pick it up and toss it in
Allan2nd : yes
Mysti : as u toss it it sails thru the air and makes a huge loud splash
Allan2nd : okies
Mysti : now .. look at ur surroundings
Mysti : not so peaceful anymore are they?
spiritofthelynx : nope
Allan2nd : no
DraconicKnight : no
Mysti : the ripples in the pond go on forever..
Mysti : you have disturbed any fish or aquatic life
Mysti : the bottom of the pond is disturbed now too.. the water is murky
Mysti : so u cannot see all of the effects
Mysti : but also .. not just the pond is affected
Mysti : look around you
Mysti : the wildlife around has been spooked as well
Mysti : w/ a seemingly harmless toss of a rock .. you have disturbed a great deal
Mysti : that is how it is w/ life
Mysti : every action.. every reaction... has a reaction
Mysti : and so it flows on and on
4wolftwigg has joined the conversation.
Mysti : that is how the energy in the univers works
Mysti : namaste wolf
EternalLighthouse : hi wolf
spiritofthelynx : mm wolf
wolftwigg : mm every one
DraconicKnight : Welcome wolf
Mysti : questions on this section?
Seeker : hi wolf
EternalLighthouse : no
DraconicKnight : No
Nova : no
spiritofthelynx : nty
Mysti : that is universal law
Flutterby : Hi Wolf! not I
Katn : I have to switch pc's and im not sure I will be back in here, so if you need any help to to the help desk and whisper a sysma or a guide
EternalLighthouse : k
DraconicKnight : Okay
Katn :
4Katn has left the conversation.
Mysti : the next universal law i want to go over is karmic law
Mysti : what is everyone's understanding of this?
spiritofthelynx : what goes around comes around
DraconicKnight : 3 fold
Mysti : basically
EternalLighthouse : you have to work through what you did
Mysti : yes the law of three plays into it
EternalLighthouse : in past
Mysti : yes that too
Mysti : anything else?
Nova : what you send out to the universe comes back
Mysti : eys
Mysti : yes*
Nova : man is but a strand in the web og life
Nova : what is done to the web is doine to all
Mysti : yes
Mysti : anyone else?
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Flutterby : Hi Lone!
EternalLighthouse : hi lone, welcome to class
wolftwigg : mm lone
Lonewolf1 : Hi all
Mysti : namaste lone welcome to class
Lonewolf1 : MM
Seeker : hi Lone
Lonewolf1 : Namaste
Mysti : ok what you all have told me is quite true about universal law
Mysti : now let me link a few things to it so we can see how it is all linked together
Mysti : the christian phrase "do unto others as you would have them do to u"
Allan2nd : yes
Mysti : this is a referance to universal law
Mysti : the law of three
Lonewolf1 : do what you wish harm none
Mysti : what ever you do is returned to you times three good or bad
Mysti : if you return to the image of the pond that i gave you
Mysti : you can see that everything was linked
Mysti : inside and outside of the pond
Lonewolf1 : yes
Mysti : the same is true for the universe
Mysti : the universe is made up of energy
Mysti : as w/ all energy it must remain in ballance
Mysti : so to ballance itself
Mysti : the universe will respond by sending back to the sender any energy sent out
Mysti : like a mirror
Mysti : it may not be ur own energy that is returned
Mysti : but it will come back
Mysti : to demonstrate this
Mysti : i want you all to think back
Mysti : to a time in ur life where you hurt someone or did something that you should not have done
Mysti : normally the return of the energy takes three months or less
Lonewolf1 : Another important Universal law is the Law Of Attraction im sensing that will be where your going lol
Mysti : so get fixed in ur mind that action..
Mysti : lone please .. we are having class..
Mysti : lets stay on task
Lonewolf1 : sorry
Mysti : now find the reaction
Mysti : do u see it?
Lonewolf1 : some one will hurt you
spiritofthelynx : yes
DraconicKnight : Yes
Nova : nods
Mysti : that is the action of universal law
Mysti : and the return of the energy
Mysti : there are some who do not go by the law of three
Mysti : or the rede
Allan2nd :
Mysti : they take into account what they do ..
Mysti : and consider the consequences
Mysti : if they are willing to deal w/ that then they go ahead
Mysti : that is done in most shamanic paths
Mysti : and some witches who are not wiccans and do not hold to that path at all
Mysti : are like that as well
Mysti : chaos magick and law is a bit different
Mysti : i will not go into that.. but we have one here who is quite familiar w/ it
Mysti : the universe is universal in its dealing w/ energy tho
Mysti : it will return what is given
Mysti : it is up to u to decide if you are willing to accept the risk
Mysti : questions or comments?
spiritofthelynx : nty
DraconicKnight : NTY
Allan2nd : nty
Lonewolf1 : nty
Nova : nty
Flutterby : nty
Mysti : now .. all of this is combined and served up as different laws in different paths
Mysti : but the ideas are again universal
Mysti : all paths are very much alike in this
Mysti : now class has been an hr and i will end here.. next week we will start out w/ a review and then i will look over and see if i have missed anything.. i dont think i have
Mysti : homework for tonight
Mysti : i love homework dont u?
EternalLighthouse : no
Mysti : awe
Lonewolf1 : lol
DraconicKnight : lol
spiritofthelynx :
Flutterby : sure....
Mysti : if you have not started a journal.. now is the time to do so
Allan2nd : nooooooooo
Mysti : this is for you as you will change throughout ur magickal carrerr
DraconicKnight : yesssssss
Mysti : lol allan
Mysti : i want you to write down your ethics
Mysti : this is a part of who you are
Mysti : what you value
Mysti : what you feel is wrong and right
Mysti : this is the basics of urself as a practitioner
Mysti : okes?
DraconicKnight : ok
EternalLighthouse : yep
Nova : yup
spiritofthelynx : ok
Mysti : any questions before i end?
Flutterby : yup
EternalLighthouse : sorry i put in the comment earlier
Lonewolf1 : ok
Allan2nd thinks heavily
spiritofthelynx : no ty
Mysti : tis ok elh
DraconicKnight : none here
Mysti : then that is class
Allan2nd : ty for clas sister
EternalLighthouse : i had seen the light, so to speak
Nova : ty
spiritofthelynx : thank you for a great class sis
EternalLighthouse : ty, great class