Post by Mysti on Aug 6, 2007 19:51:08 GMT -5
Shaman : Do you remember the whitelight technique I taught earlier this year?
Shaman : it is based on that principal
Myst : well.. teach it
Shaman : The first step is finding your center
Shaman : clearing your mind so that your totems come
Shaman : Since it is a lower world issue, I rely on Owl
Shaman : He sees into the darkness and places that would try and hide
Shaman : You have to focus on the person you are trying to help
Myst : i dont have a lower world totem i dont think
Shaman : Take in the whole
Shaman : Do not get bogged down in the little details in the begining
Shaman : Totems can come and go anywhere
Shaman : Owl can go into any place
Shaman : as can Bear and Fox
Shaman : If it is a physical illness - I ask bear for help
Shaman : I need his strength
Shaman : If it is emotional/psychological I ask Owl or Fox for help
Allan2nd : <break>
Shaman : yes
Allan2nd : lowerwworld and underworld the same?
Shaman : yes
Allan2nd : ok
Shaman : I have found that with emotional/psychological problems tend to be hidden
Shaman : so I ask Owl or Fox to lead me
Shaman : Physical illness is usually a matter of concentration and strength and
endurance - so I as Bear
Shaman : ask Bear
Shaman : Once you understand the problem
Shaman : then you can begin
Shaman : Emotional problems are the hardest to retrieve for - since most people use
the "out of sight, out of mind approach
Myst : break
Shaman : oyes
Myst : u are talking about doing for others.. yes?
Shaman : yes
Myst : this will work on urself as well?
Shaman : Working on yourself is tricky because we tend to want slide over things
Shaman : That is why it is important that you can deal with and face all of your
faults and strengths head on
Myst : i am learning
Myst : can i use this for katrina?
Shaman : yes
Myst : ok
Myst : fox will help?
Shaman : But you have to be more intouch with yourself
Shaman : You can ask her
Shaman : I always ask
Myst : i always ask too..
Shaman : Fox is good at finding "lost" things
Shaman : she can snoop around and is quite clever
Myst : fox is still working w/ me.. and now i have a big turtle too..lol
Myst : ok im done.. continue
Shaman : At the same time that Emotional retrievals are the hardest, they are also
some of the most amazing
Shaman : You just have to be careful not to impose your issues onto others
Shaman : Emotional scarring is the hardest to break through because most people do
not want to relive the pain
Shaman : and that is often what is needed to break through and have the issue dealt
with
Shaman : Physical problems can be rooted in emotional problems as well
Shaman : so you have to learn to decipher what you see in the three worlds
Shaman : Some physical problems can be hold overs from past lives
Shaman : as well as emotional issues
Shaman : again this where experience come into play and you have to learn to
understand what your Totems are teaching you
Shaman : Some people have dark spots in there lives
Shaman : This is when going into the lower world helps
Shaman : Things that would remain hidden or dark are almost always in the lower
world
Shaman : Notice I say ALMOST
Shaman : Each issue is unique in itself
Shaman : so treat it that way
Shaman : you cannot say that everything is done this way every time
Shaman : because then you are fooling yourself and harming the person you are sent
to help
Shaman : For a good deal of past life work
Shaman : it is the upper world I tend to go to because it is something you need to
know and it is usually open
Shaman : the upper world is a place of light and free flowing energy
Shaman : it is easier to see the Web of life there
Shaman : to follow a connection
Shaman : Past life connections are usually orangish to me
Shaman : and present connections are bright yellow
Myst : break..
Shaman : every person seem them different ly tho
Shaman : yes
Myst : what do they feel like...
Myst : i feel them better then see them
Shaman : To me past life threads have an echoy type feel
Shaman : and present life has a thrumming energy
Shaman : like a 9 volt battery on your tongue but not so biting
Shaman : but again that is how I feel it
Shaman : and my interpretation of it
Shaman : help?
Myst : yes
Shaman : But it really helps to be able to "see" them so you can find connections
easily
Shaman : I teach people to think of a big giant loom
Shaman : each thread in it is connected
Shaman : and where the knots are is where another energy has touch it
Shaman : It seems to make more sense to people when I say that
Myst : yes
Shaman : Remember to keep your own energy under control or else you will muddy the
trail as it were
Myst : ok
Shaman : Your own energy can over lap and confuse things
Shaman : especially if you go charging into places you have never been before
Myst : u taught me to not do that..lol
Shaman nodding
Shaman : For most people getting there is the hard part
Shaman : Finding that place within yourself that allows you to release your "soul"
or what ever word you want to use
Shaman : to go and find the missing pieces to help someone
Shaman : again - Practice makes it easier
Shaman : Practice practice practice - The Forest Mantra
Myst : lol yes
Allan2nd rofl
Shaman : But always practice in a safe place
spiritofthelynx : lol
Shaman : There are many ways to get there and everyone works differently
Shaman : Most shamans use a drum or a rattle
Shaman : I can hold a song of drumming in my head and use that
Shaman : or a candle flame
Shaman : or focus into a stone
Shaman : Rattles tend to distract me for some reason
Allan2nd : or stick
Shaman : Once I connect with a stone - I feel the Mother's heartbeat and use that
most of the time
Shaman : For me it is easier
Shaman : The rattle thing is because I associate them with Maracas and that is a
high energy thing in my mind
Shaman : There is an important rule here to folks
Shaman : you go after something specific
Shaman : have a very clear image of what is needed
Shaman : stumbling around in the Web is not a good thing
Allan2nd : <break>
Shaman : yes
Allan2nd : what about first time
Shaman : Your first time is usually with someone who knows what they are doing
Shaman : If you go in, have what you need firmly fixed in your mind
Allan2nd : ok
Allan2nd : ty
Shaman : Reread obtaining a shamanic trance
Shaman : it is good information
Shaman : With that - Class is over for tonight
Myst : ty brother
spiritofthelynx : good class ty
Myst : i learned much.. and will have more questions for u laters
Myst : i can explore safely on my own connections?
Shaman : ask away
Shaman : after you all reread and understand the material clearer
Shaman : we can continue
Shaman : Yes you can if you are willing to deal with the findings
Myst : i need to deal w/ them
Shaman : That is the thing with shamanism
Shaman : you cannot put stuff like that off and be effective
Shaman : you have to learn to deal with your own issues first
Myst : that is what i mean
Myst : it is the same way w/ psychology
Shaman : yes
Myst : so it is safe for me to explore my own healing then?
Shaman : I feel that psychology was actually loosely based on shamanic principals
as far as knowing yourself
Shaman : I would just trace your own connections
Shaman : and not attempt a self healing yet
Myst : ok
Shaman : We can do that on the Solstice
Shaman : a time of renewal and rebirth
Myst : candle mas?
Shaman : Yule
Myst : ah sooner
Myst : ok
Shaman : That is why I wanted get these classes started last month
Myst : ok
Shaman : so everyone would be prepared
Myst : yup
Shaman : Where have the others been?
Myst : you have given me much to think on
Myst : i dunno
Shaman : good
Shaman : Dreams of Peace all - tomorrow starts my work week again - Hospital and PT
Myst : namaste bro
Myst : winged dreams
8Shaman has left the conversation.
Shaman : it is based on that principal
Myst : well.. teach it
Shaman : The first step is finding your center
Shaman : clearing your mind so that your totems come
Shaman : Since it is a lower world issue, I rely on Owl
Shaman : He sees into the darkness and places that would try and hide
Shaman : You have to focus on the person you are trying to help
Myst : i dont have a lower world totem i dont think
Shaman : Take in the whole
Shaman : Do not get bogged down in the little details in the begining
Shaman : Totems can come and go anywhere
Shaman : Owl can go into any place
Shaman : as can Bear and Fox
Shaman : If it is a physical illness - I ask bear for help
Shaman : I need his strength
Shaman : If it is emotional/psychological I ask Owl or Fox for help
Allan2nd : <break>
Shaman : yes
Allan2nd : lowerwworld and underworld the same?
Shaman : yes
Allan2nd : ok
Shaman : I have found that with emotional/psychological problems tend to be hidden
Shaman : so I ask Owl or Fox to lead me
Shaman : Physical illness is usually a matter of concentration and strength and
endurance - so I as Bear
Shaman : ask Bear
Shaman : Once you understand the problem
Shaman : then you can begin
Shaman : Emotional problems are the hardest to retrieve for - since most people use
the "out of sight, out of mind approach
Myst : break
Shaman : oyes
Myst : u are talking about doing for others.. yes?
Shaman : yes
Myst : this will work on urself as well?
Shaman : Working on yourself is tricky because we tend to want slide over things
Shaman : That is why it is important that you can deal with and face all of your
faults and strengths head on
Myst : i am learning
Myst : can i use this for katrina?
Shaman : yes
Myst : ok
Myst : fox will help?
Shaman : But you have to be more intouch with yourself
Shaman : You can ask her
Shaman : I always ask
Myst : i always ask too..
Shaman : Fox is good at finding "lost" things
Shaman : she can snoop around and is quite clever
Myst : fox is still working w/ me.. and now i have a big turtle too..lol
Myst : ok im done.. continue
Shaman : At the same time that Emotional retrievals are the hardest, they are also
some of the most amazing
Shaman : You just have to be careful not to impose your issues onto others
Shaman : Emotional scarring is the hardest to break through because most people do
not want to relive the pain
Shaman : and that is often what is needed to break through and have the issue dealt
with
Shaman : Physical problems can be rooted in emotional problems as well
Shaman : so you have to learn to decipher what you see in the three worlds
Shaman : Some physical problems can be hold overs from past lives
Shaman : as well as emotional issues
Shaman : again this where experience come into play and you have to learn to
understand what your Totems are teaching you
Shaman : Some people have dark spots in there lives
Shaman : This is when going into the lower world helps
Shaman : Things that would remain hidden or dark are almost always in the lower
world
Shaman : Notice I say ALMOST
Shaman : Each issue is unique in itself
Shaman : so treat it that way
Shaman : you cannot say that everything is done this way every time
Shaman : because then you are fooling yourself and harming the person you are sent
to help
Shaman : For a good deal of past life work
Shaman : it is the upper world I tend to go to because it is something you need to
know and it is usually open
Shaman : the upper world is a place of light and free flowing energy
Shaman : it is easier to see the Web of life there
Shaman : to follow a connection
Shaman : Past life connections are usually orangish to me
Shaman : and present connections are bright yellow
Myst : break..
Shaman : every person seem them different ly tho
Shaman : yes
Myst : what do they feel like...
Myst : i feel them better then see them
Shaman : To me past life threads have an echoy type feel
Shaman : and present life has a thrumming energy
Shaman : like a 9 volt battery on your tongue but not so biting
Shaman : but again that is how I feel it
Shaman : and my interpretation of it
Shaman : help?
Myst : yes
Shaman : But it really helps to be able to "see" them so you can find connections
easily
Shaman : I teach people to think of a big giant loom
Shaman : each thread in it is connected
Shaman : and where the knots are is where another energy has touch it
Shaman : It seems to make more sense to people when I say that
Myst : yes
Shaman : Remember to keep your own energy under control or else you will muddy the
trail as it were
Myst : ok
Shaman : Your own energy can over lap and confuse things
Shaman : especially if you go charging into places you have never been before
Myst : u taught me to not do that..lol
Shaman nodding
Shaman : For most people getting there is the hard part
Shaman : Finding that place within yourself that allows you to release your "soul"
or what ever word you want to use
Shaman : to go and find the missing pieces to help someone
Shaman : again - Practice makes it easier
Shaman : Practice practice practice - The Forest Mantra
Myst : lol yes
Allan2nd rofl
Shaman : But always practice in a safe place
spiritofthelynx : lol
Shaman : There are many ways to get there and everyone works differently
Shaman : Most shamans use a drum or a rattle
Shaman : I can hold a song of drumming in my head and use that
Shaman : or a candle flame
Shaman : or focus into a stone
Shaman : Rattles tend to distract me for some reason
Allan2nd : or stick
Shaman : Once I connect with a stone - I feel the Mother's heartbeat and use that
most of the time
Shaman : For me it is easier
Shaman : The rattle thing is because I associate them with Maracas and that is a
high energy thing in my mind
Shaman : There is an important rule here to folks
Shaman : you go after something specific
Shaman : have a very clear image of what is needed
Shaman : stumbling around in the Web is not a good thing
Allan2nd : <break>
Shaman : yes
Allan2nd : what about first time
Shaman : Your first time is usually with someone who knows what they are doing
Shaman : If you go in, have what you need firmly fixed in your mind
Allan2nd : ok
Allan2nd : ty
Shaman : Reread obtaining a shamanic trance
Shaman : it is good information
Shaman : With that - Class is over for tonight
Myst : ty brother
spiritofthelynx : good class ty
Myst : i learned much.. and will have more questions for u laters
Myst : i can explore safely on my own connections?
Shaman : ask away
Shaman : after you all reread and understand the material clearer
Shaman : we can continue
Shaman : Yes you can if you are willing to deal with the findings
Myst : i need to deal w/ them
Shaman : That is the thing with shamanism
Shaman : you cannot put stuff like that off and be effective
Shaman : you have to learn to deal with your own issues first
Myst : that is what i mean
Myst : it is the same way w/ psychology
Shaman : yes
Myst : so it is safe for me to explore my own healing then?
Shaman : I feel that psychology was actually loosely based on shamanic principals
as far as knowing yourself
Shaman : I would just trace your own connections
Shaman : and not attempt a self healing yet
Myst : ok
Shaman : We can do that on the Solstice
Shaman : a time of renewal and rebirth
Myst : candle mas?
Shaman : Yule
Myst : ah sooner
Myst : ok
Shaman : That is why I wanted get these classes started last month
Myst : ok
Shaman : so everyone would be prepared
Myst : yup
Shaman : Where have the others been?
Myst : you have given me much to think on
Myst : i dunno
Shaman : good
Shaman : Dreams of Peace all - tomorrow starts my work week again - Hospital and PT
Myst : namaste bro
Myst : winged dreams
8Shaman has left the conversation.